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BigBoss
Joined: 17 Nov 2001 Posts: 1177 Helped: 89 Location: Earth
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28 Nov 2004 18:38
Re: Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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mckinson wrote: |
Hello ,guys . Anybody knows how to confirm the impedance of the microstrip ? For example ,I have simulated the width of the microstrip for 50 homs .But I don't know whether the impedance of pcb tracks from pcb manufactory is correct ? How to confirm ? Best regards ! |
Connect an 50 Ohm low ESR and inductance resistor (or 2 parallel 100 Ohm) at the end of line and measure with VNA. | |
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vfone
Joined: 10 Oct 2001 Posts: 2578 Helped: 358
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28 Nov 2004 22:45
Re: Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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You don’t need any extra components. Just measure with Network Analyzer, that is connected at both ends of the line. | |
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sergio mariotti
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 469 Helped: 43 Location: Italy
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29 Nov 2004 0:03
Re: Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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vfone wrote: |
You dont need any extra components. Just measure with Network Analyzer, that is connected at both ends of the line. | Yes, correct, but usually it may be experimented that measured Zo differ a lot from the simulated one, also in the case that all is correct and well manufactured. This is due to end effects and ľstrip launchers. To reduce this effect and focalize the attention to the line only, use a Time Domain VNA. Both Agilent and Anritsu have very efficent and useful TD algoritms. | |
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mckinson
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 136
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29 Nov 2004 16:14
Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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Appreciated !Do you think that is accurate measure the character impedance Z0 by the VNA ? Could you please tell me the detail stap for measurement ? Best regards ! | |
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vfone
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29 Nov 2004 17:59
Re: Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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By definition the main designation of VNA is to measure impedances. Time Domain Reflectometry (TDR) is more accurate than frequency domain Vector Network Analysis (VNA), because do not depend by frequency. But for commercial applications frequency domain is more than ok. Check this document: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5968-1947E.pdf | |
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hitmo
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 40
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13 Jan 2005 18:55
Re: Hello ,about the 50 ohms microstrip ! |
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u can also do it with network ana. just measure inserstion loss and return loss on smith chart. return loss will tell u the impedance of the line. if the rerunloss is as close as possible to center of the smith chart its a 50ohm line | |
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